Submitted by ramez.hanna on Tue, 14/06/2005 - 09:32.

according to osnews.com " founder and chief architect of the popular Linux distribution Gentoo Daniel Robbins, has taken up a job at Microsoft" woooooow way to go gentoo


He just want to access to mic

Pronco's picture

He just wants access to microshafts code


-I used to be indecisive .. but now I'm not so sure

he sold his soul

ramez.hanna's picture

he sold his soul to M$ for money, money moneyyyyyyyyyy


the best things in life are free --- so as myself

Let's see you turning down an

phaeronix's picture

Let's see you turning down an offer from redmond :D


It's never over till it's over.

i wouldn't :Di would sell my

ramez.hanna's picture

i wouldn't :D
i would sell my soul


the best things in life are free --- so as myself

Probably because he needs to

Pronco's picture

Probably because he needs to put food on his family's table just like the rest of us.


-I used to be indecisive .. but now I'm not so sure

My point exactly. It's n

phaeronix's picture

My point exactly.


It's never over till it's over.

Just Heard Daniel Speak

Daniel just did a presentation on "open source" for Microsoft (sic...no reallly....SICK). Daniel might be a bright guy but the first 45 minutes were sour grapes about how he basically started Gentoo without a business plan, and then had to try and figure out how to make money (geez). He also went off on the fact that his firewire driver started acting up as he was having to burn all his CD from his home (sigh). This was all accompanied by the battle cry "you can't make money...someone can take your stuff and resell it for 50% under GPL....ad naseum).

Daniel used the firewire incident to convince everyone tha t Linux is supported by a bunch of volunteers who must "decide whether to eat dinner with their families or go upstairs and support Linux after work."

He then went on to blather about Shared Source (imagine that). One interesting comment he made was that getting source code out of MS practically required Bill Gates personal signature.

I left after he started to talk about one of the "coolest things" that MS was learning about the Open Source movement, a reemphasis on the CLI (Command Line Interface) with their Monad initiative. I didn't have the stomach to listen to more, as nobody wanted to interrupt the poor sap and point out that a devastating POC (Proof of Concept) worm had been written for Monad within days of Vista's (aka Longhorn) first beta release and that as a result it has been announced that Monad would not be released as part of Vista. (Sigh)

I'm sure Daniel is bright, but there seem to be alot of sour grapes over his inability to run a business. He desperately wanted Gentoo to go so that he could live in Albequerque (sp?) but when MS offered a real job and real money his ideals went out the window. He now lives in (you guessed it) Redmond.

Sigh

The gentoo niche

YoussefAssad's picture

I think the very nature of his distro did him in. There isn't really any proper server market for it, end users prefer precompiled dstros, which leaves him with the Mom's basement crowd (I know I'm overgeneralizing, but I'm sure you can see my point in terms of distro placement).

There's just no revenue stream there for pushing shrinkwrapped boxes. He can't sell support either since the gentoo boards are amonst the best support bases in the entire open source community.

So yes, he's probably bitter but he'd never have been able to turn a dime anyhow with gentoo.

-- Panem et *burp* circenses

distro vs. metadistro

phaeronix's picture

Your argument is totally valid, but considering gentoo is a "meta" distro what you say is expected.

Metadistro means it gives you the tools to build your own shrinkwrapped thing. A server can run gentoo very well, and the range of software available rivals debian's.

So I think it was lack of proper marketing rather than product flaw , was what drove Daniel away. But that's just me.

gentoo

whirlpool's picture

It is gentoo, this does not come as a surprise.


Mostafa Hussein

Back from the dead!

phaeronix's picture

Whirlpool, you should have enough common sense to differentiate between "Daniel", a person, and "gentoo" a distro.

When one thinks about an open source project however big or small, he thinks of it as a whole; community and source code. You don't label a community project with one person.

Back from the dead!

no

whirlpool's picture

no you go back to your studies and i am serious. halt your computer NOW!


Mostafa Hussein

Written exams are over and on

phaeronix's picture

Written exams are over and only the oral and clinical exams are left. I can handle those well ISA.

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